Kleman
Padror Vv Chocolate Suede Derby Shoes Men
The Kleman Padror is a men's derby shoe with a chocolate brown genuine suede upper, apron/moc toe, padded leather-lined footbed, and non-skid rubber lug sole. Made in France, it features a cemented (non-welted) construction and a chunky silhouette. It is suited for versatile wear from casual to dressier outfits; note that sizing can be inconsistent and some users recommend trying on before purchase.
- Color
- Chocolate
- Material
- Genuine suede upper, leather footbed
- Gender
- male
- Style
- smart-casual, classic, heritage
- Category
- Apparel & Accessories > Shoes
Color
Size
Specifications
Men's chocolate suede derby shoes with apron toe and padded footbed.
Genuine suede upper, apron/moc toe, non-skid rubber outer sole, made in France
- Color
- Chocolate · brown
- Material
- Genuine suede upper, leather footbed
- Style
- smart-casual, classic, heritage
- Gender
- male
- Age Group
- adult
- Condition
- new
- Category
- Apparel & Accessories > Shoes
Additional Attributes
- genuine suede upper
- apron/moc toe
- padded footbed with leather top cover
- non-skid rubber outer sole
- made in France
- French Kleman label at Simons
- derby shoe style with open lacing
Product Insights
The Kleman Padror Vv Chocolate Suede Derby Shoes Men ($295 CAD) in stock. Grounded in century-old Tyrolean design adapted from SNCF railway worker specifications, these shoes are made by a family-run French manufacturer using Leather Working Group certified suede, with uppers stitched in Tunisia and final assembly in France. Their cemented construction keeps the price accessible—about $200 less than the Paraboot Michael—but prevents resoling and the suede is stiff, creases more, and takes longer to break in than premium leather. The padded footbed offers all-day comfort but less arch support than its competitor, and moderate arch support comes from a non-removable footbed. Buyers report the shoes run large and require sizing down, with returns costing about $100 in import fees. Despite these tradeoffs, the shoes have a cult following in Japan and the UK for bridging workwear and smart-casual style, pairing best with wide-leg denim, wool trousers, and corduroy. The chocolate suede complements fall/winter fabrics, though it appears darker indoors and after waterproofing. The design features a serrated vamp edge signaling workwear roots, and the shoes are assembled by a third-generation workshop with annual production of 130,000 pairs. They are a post-sneaker staple, works with suits and for sneakerheads, but the Leather Working Group certification does not guarantee texture or aging.
- Design origins
Century-old Tyrolean design elements meet SNCF railway agent specifications.
Why this is supported
The shoe's core design dates back over a century, with a moc-stitch toe, two eyelets, and chunky lug sole that have remained unchanged.
The design is over a hundred years old and it’s defining features have remained unchanged: moc-stitch toe, two eyelets, and a chunky lug sole.
wallacemercantileshop.comA serrated hem at the vamp meeting point, originally a reinforcement, now serves as a visual signature.
The signature serrated edge along the vamp's meeting point with the quarter panels lets you know these aren't your average pair of derbies.
uptherestore.comAdditionally, the shoe was introduced in the 1990s to fit SNCF railway agents, providing a padded footbed and shock-absorbing sole for workers on hard platforms.
the KLEMAN Padror has remained unchanged since the '90s, when it was introduced to fit SNCF (the French national railway company) agents.
opumo.comOriginally destined for postal workers, army officers, and railway employees, its outsole meets a normalized material standard established in 1988, ensuring durability and grip.
Depuis 1988 les chaussures et boots KLEMAN sont fabriquées dans notre usine française selon un cahier des charges strict, avec des matériaux normés.
cleon.com- Construction
Cemented construction, not resoleable, keeps price accessible.
Why this is supported
The shoe uses cemented construction, not stitched, so the sole cannot be replaced. A Q&A confirms:
The Kleman Padror VV uses cemented (welded) construction, not stitched, so it is not resoleable
What is the construction method of the outsole? Is it cemented or stitched, and is it resoleable?, and a reddit user adds:
but yeah don’t expect them to be welted or anything.
u/astw in r/ThrowingFitsThis tradeoff keeps the price accessible.
- Craftsmanship and sourcing
Family-run French manufacturer uses LWG-certified suede; cult following in Japan and UK.
Why this is supported
Kleman is made by the Cléon family company, founded in 1945 in La Romagne, now third-generation managed, with fabrication and finishing entirely at the same factory.
Créé en 1945, l’entreprise familiale de près de 80 personnes, dont 45 en production, arrive aujourd’hui à un nouveau tournant avec la transmission à une troisième génération de dirigeants.
lejournaldesentreprises.comThe factory produces about 130,000 pairs per year, allowing hands-on steps.
Elle produit 130 000 paires de chaussures chaque année, dont une partie dans son usine des Mauges.
lejournaldesentreprises.comThe suede upper is sourced from Leather Working Group certified tanneries, adding an audited environmental credential.
crafted from suede from the Leather Working Group Responsible Tanneries
workingclassheroes.co.ukThis heritage has garnered a strong cult following in markets like Japan and the UK, which appreciate authentic workwear.
Bien au-delà des frontières : en Angleterre, au Japon…
ouest-france.fr- Value
Padror at 295 CAD is ~$200 less than the Paraboot Michael and widely recommended as a budget-friendly alternative.
Why this is supported
Reddit discussions consistently compare the Padror to the Paraboot Michael, noting the roughly $200 price gap and endorsing the Padror as a budget-friendly alternative. One reviewer summarizes:
Overall, big recommend.
u/rcjennings in r/malefashionadviceThe price comparison is supported by multiple threads.
- Comfort
Originally designed for SNCF workers in the 1990s, padded footbed ensures all-day comfort but less arch support than Paraboot Michael.
Why this is supported
The Padror was originally designed for SNCF railway workers in the 1990s. As one source explains:
the KLEMAN Padror has remained unchanged since the '90s, when it was introduced to fit SNCF (the French national railway company) agents.
opumo.comThis heritage includes a padded footbed for all-day comfort:
the comfortable padded footbed, shock-absorbing sole, and anti-slip rubber compound
Tyrolean design and SNCF workwear origins — sncf_railway_agent_commission_1990s. However, some Q&A respondents note that the arch support is less than that of the Paraboot Michael, a trade-off for high-arched wearers.
- Sizing
Buyers report shoe runs large; size down if between sizes.
Why this is supported
Buyers consistently note the Padror runs slightly large:
A wee bit bigger than expected. I’m usually a 10.5 in US so I got the 44s, but they’re just a little bit big - with thicker socks, though, they’re pretty spot on.
u/rcjennings in r/malefashionadviceQ&A guidance states
They generally fit true to size but can run slightly large; if between sizes, size down.
How should I size Kleman Padrors?Another buyer with wide feet sized down and found a comfortable fit:
I have wide flat feet, and the one complaint I do have is the website told me to size up if I was in between sizes (normally a US 9.5), I had to return my first pair and size down to a 9
u/astw in r/ThrowingFitsAs a reference:
Yes, size 41 (EU) corresponds to an insole length of approximately 26 cm
Can you provide the insole length for size 41? Is there a size chart with precise measurements?- Break-in
Buyers report no break-in period; shoes comfortable immediately.
Why this is supported
Buyers report the shoes need essentially no break-in period:
No break-in period
u/astw in r/ThrowingFitsand
They broke in really quickly and feel great.
u/Childishvictrino in r/ThrowingFits- Return cost
Returning the wrong size may cost ~$100 in import fees.
Why this is supported
One buyer from Canada reported that a sizing mistake was costly:
I had to return my first pair and size down to a 9 which meant I had to pay import fees twice, ended up being like $100 total for that.
u/astw in r/ThrowingFits- Fit pairing
Pairs best with wide-leg denim, wool trousers, and corduroy; avoid slim fits.
Why this is supported
Editors recommend pairing the Padror with substantial fabrics like denim, wool, and corduroy, explaining that
Style it with workwear and textured casual clothes: denim, fatigue pants, wool trousers, corduroy, chore coats, knitwear, overshirts, and heavier outerwear. It can look awkward with athletic outfits or very slim pants because the toe and sole have real weight.
solefeed.comOne buyer adds that the shoe is chunkier than photos suggest and advises
they do look chunkier in person but if you wear any clothing that’s remotely boxy it looks way better than slimmer alternatives
u/astw in r/ThrowingFitsTogether, these sources confirm that the Padror demands volume in the leg and looks best when paired with wide-leg or structured pants, avoiding slim or athletic cuts.
- Versatility
Bridges workwear and smart-casual; works with a suit and for sneakerheads.
Why this is supported
The Padror's styling versatility is supported by multiple sources. An editorial description calls it
bridging casual workwear and smart-casual settings
solefeed.com, while another note frames the shoe for a post-sneaker world:
As we merge into a post-sneaker world (big-ups Throwing Fits) the moccasin-toed, commando-soled silhouette of the Padror works into the wardrobe of a serial sneaker fiend well.
uptherestore.comA buyer reports simply:
I’ve worn them with a suit and with everyday jeans. They go with everything.
u/rcjennings in r/malefashionadviceThese attest to a wide range of acceptable contexts, from smart-casual to formal wear and from streetwear to traditional.
- Color pairing
Chocolate suede pairs best with fall/winter fabrics: velvet, dark denim, green chinos.
Why this is supported
A style guide notes that the chocolate brown suede version of the Padror is seasonally specific:
Its brown shade goes perfectly with fall/winter looks, like velvet pants, a denim dark or green chinos.
wethenew.comThis establishes a targeted color-pairing recommendation for cooler months.
- Design identity
Features century-old Tyrolean design, SNCF workwear origin, and serrated vamp edge.
Why this is supported
The Padror's design roots are stated clearly:
The Padror derby was designed for the Société Nationale des Chemins de fer Français (SNCF) officers as a durable, comfortable shoe to be worn on the job.
uptherestore.comIt is also part of a century-old typology:
The design is over a hundred years old and it’s defining features have remained unchanged: moc-stitch toe, two eyelets, and a chunky lug sole.
wallacemercantileshop.comA distinctive finishing detail further marks it:
The signature serrated edge along the vamp's meeting point with the quarter panels lets you know these aren't your average pair of derbies.
uptherestore.comTogether, these show the shoe's occupational heritage and unchanging Tyrolean silhouette, supported by historical and retail sources.
- Suede quality
Buyers report suede is stiff, creases more, and takes longer to break in than premium suede.
Why this is supported
A user on r/malefashionadvice reports that the Klemans
were stiff, get huge unsightly creases, and have been much slower to break in.
u/socal_bean in r/malefashionadvice, and a buyers' Q&A states that the
leather is lower quality than premium brands like Paraboot
Are Kleman Padrors good quality?, supporting that the suede behaves differently than premium offerings.
- Leather certification
Suede is from Leather Working Group certified tanneries, but this certification does not guarantee texture or aging.
Why this is supported
The product page states the suede is
crafted from suede from the Leather Working Group Responsible Tanneries
workingclassheroes.co.uk, but this certification addresses environmental and social practices, not the leather's feel or aging.
- Manufacturing origin
The suede uppers are stitched in Tunisia; assembly and finishing are in France.
Why this is supported
According to a product detail page,
The production steps:sewing: Tunisiaassembly: France, in La Romagnefinishing: France, in La Romagne
ooid-store.com, confirming a split manufacturing process.
- Arch support
Moderate arch support with non-removable footbed.
Why this is supported
Arch support is moderate compared to Paraboot Michael, and the footbed is likely non-removable, with a note that
The footbed is likely not removable, as it is typical for cemented construction, but we cannot confirm this definitively.
How does the arch support compare to Paraboot Michael? Is the footbed removable for orthotics?.
- Resoling
Cemented construction; sole cannot be replaced.
Why this is supported
The Padror uses cemented construction, meaning the sole cannot be replaced. Once the rubber outsole wears down, the shoe's primary cushioning is lost and it cannot be resoled, limiting its lifespan for daily use.
- Manufacturing scale
Annual production of 130,000 pairs with in-house finishing in La Romagne.
Why this is supported
Kleman produces
130 000 paires de chaussures chaque année
lejournaldesentreprises.com, and the Padror is finished at the La Romagne factory,
dont nous faisons à la Romagne la partie fabrication et finition
lejournaldesentreprises.com. This industrial scale and in-house manufacturing contribute to accessible pricing.
- Heritage
SNCF-commissioned derby with serrated hem signaling workwear roots.
Why this is supported
The Padror was originally commissioned by the French national railway (SNCF) for station agents in the 1990s.
the KLEMAN Padror has remained unchanged since the '90s, when it was introduced to fit SNCF (the French national railway company) agents.
opumo.comKleman itself was founded in 1945 and remains a family-run workshop producing 130,000 pairs annually, with a third generation in charge. The design carries a visual identifier of this workwear lineage: a serrated hem along the vamp seam. As Up There Store explains,
The signature serrated edge along the vamp's meeting point with the quarter panels lets you know these aren't your average pair of derbies.
uptherestore.comThis combination of origin story and distinctive detailing authenticates the Padror as a genuine workwear descendant.
- Style positioning
Post-sneaker staple bridging workwear and smart-casual.
Why this is supported
Up There Store positions the Padror as a post-sneaker staple:
As we merge into a post-sneaker world (big-ups Throwing Fits) the moccasin-toed, commando-soled silhouette of the Padror works into the wardrobe of a serial sneaker fiend well.
uptherestore.comSole Feed describes it as
bridging casual workwear and smart-casual settings
solefeed.com, and Wethenew highlights that
Its brown shade goes perfectly with fall/winter looks, like velvet pants, a denim dark or green chinos.
wethenew.comStyle guides further recommend pairing with denim, fatigue pants, wool trousers, and corduroy, requiring substantial silhouettes. This aligns it with workwear and creative office styling.
- International following
Has a cult following in Japan and the UK among workwear enthusiasts.
Why this is supported
Kleman has developed a strong following beyond France, particularly in Japan and the UK.
Bien au-delà des frontières : en Angleterre, au Japon…
ouest-france.frThis international cult status is driven by the brand's authentic workwear heritage and artisanal production, resonating with consumers who value provenance.
- Competitive position
Affordable alternative to Paraboot Michael with a chunkier silhouette.
Why this is supported
On style forums, the Padror is consistently discussed as a more affordable alternative to the Paraboot Michael, with reviewers noting its distinct chunkier silhouette and cemented construction, giving it a separate identity within the workwear aesthetic. This positions it as a considerate option for buyers seeking the look at a lower price point.
- Workshop
Assembled in France by a third-generation family workshop.
Why this is supported
The Padror is assembled and finished in La Romagne by Cléon, a family enterprise founded in 1945.
Créé en 1945, l’entreprise familiale de près de 80 personnes, dont 45 en production, arrive aujourd’hui à un nouveau tournant avec la transmission à une troisième génération de dirigeants.
lejournaldesentreprises.comWith an annual output of around 130,000 pairs,
Elle produit 130 000 paires de chaussures chaque année, dont une partie dans son usine des Mauges.
lejournaldesentreprises.comThe production involves sewing in Tunisia and final assembly in France:
The production steps:sewing: Tunisiaassembly: France, in La Romagnefinishing: France, in La Romagne
ooid-store.comThis combination of regional expertise and family oversight has earned the brand a following beyond France,
Bien au-delà des frontières : en Angleterre, au Japon…
ouest-france.frconfirming that the craftsmanship resonates internationally.
- Materials
LWG suede, normalized rubber; leather grade fits price point.
Why this is supported
The suede upper is sourced from Leather Working Group Responsible Tanneries,
crafted from suede from the Leather Working Group Responsible Tanneries
workingclassheroes.co.ukand the rubber outsole follows normalized material standards (matériaux normés) originally set for French institutional footwear,
Depuis 1988 les chaussures et boots KLEMAN sont fabriquées dans notre usine française selon un cahier des charges strict, avec des matériaux normés.
cleon.comReddit users note that the leather is of a lower grade compared to premium alternatives like the Paraboot Michael, a trade-off consistent with the accessible price and cemented construction.
The Padror's suede is sourced from Leather Working Group certified tanneries, as one review points out:
. Despite this certification, user comparisons reveal trade-offs in feel. One user describes:
The Paraboots are soft, oily, and have tight creases. The Klemans were stiff, get huge unsightly creases, and have been much slower to break in.
u/socal_bean in r/malefashionadvice- Color appearance
Color matches product photos in daylight but appears darker indoors and with waterproofing.
Why this is supported
Product Q&A notes that the suede
can appear darker indoors or under warm lighting
Is the chocolate color in product photos accurate to the real shoe, or does it appear darker/lighter in person?and that
this may darken the color slightly and temporarily
Can the suede upper be treated with waterproofing products, and will that affect the color or texture?; pre-testing is recommended.
- Suede sourcing
Suede is sourced from Leather Working Group certified tanneries.
Why this is supported
A product description states that the suede is
crafted from suede from the Leather Working Group Responsible Tanneries
workingclassheroes.co.uk, indicating responsible environmental and social standards.
Image Analysis
3 images- 01
Product
Right-facing single brown suede derby shoe shown in full side profile with visible moc-toe stitching, two-eyelet lacing, and a black chunky rubber sole with lug tread.
- Overall silhouetteFull side profile of a low-cut derby shoe facing right with a rounded moc-style toe and a defined heel section.
1 region
x 0.04 · y 0.48 · w 0.92 · h 0.39 (high) - Upper materialUniform soft suede texture covering the entire upper surface, visible nap and slight tonal variation from suede fibers.
1 region
x 0.06 · y 0.50 · w 0.60 · h 0.30 (high) - Moc-toe stitchingRaised moc-toe seam that follows the front perimeter of the toe box with visible decorative stitching along the seam.
1 region
x 0.58 · y 0.55 · w 0.32 · h 0.20 (high) - LacingTwo eyelets with thin round dark laces tied through, lacing start point visible near the vamp throat.
1 region
x 0.56 · y 0.46 · w 0.12 · h 0.12 (high) - Heel stitching detailVertical double-row decorative stitching on the heel counter area.
1 region
x 0.09 · y 0.56 · w 0.16 · h 0.22 (high) - Collar and liningLow padded collar with a slightly darker interior lining visible along the opening.
1 region
x 0.28 · y 0.46 · w 0.28 · h 0.12 (high) - Welt stitchVisible light-colored welt stitching running where upper meets the sole around the perimeter.
1 region
x 0.10 · y 0.70 · w 0.82 · h 0.08 (high) - Outsole and treadThick black rubber outsole with shallow rectangular lug tread and a defined heel block.
1 region
x 0.06 · y 0.74 · w 0.88 · h 0.18 (high)
Other
Studio product shot on a uniform light gray background with soft even lighting and a faint shadow under the shoe.
- BackgroundEven light gray seamless studio background occupying the full frame behind the shoe.
- ShadowSoft diffuse shadow directly beneath the shoe following its contour, indicating top-front studio lighting.
1 region
x 0.06 · y 0.82 · w 0.88 · h 0.06 (medium) - Shot compositionCentered composition with the shoe placed horizontally across the lower half of the image and significant empty space above.
Colors
chocolate brown suede· upper#5A3D2Cmatte black· sole#131313dark brown near-black· laces- Overall silhouetteFull side profile of a low-cut derby shoe facing right with a rounded moc-style toe and a defined heel section.
- 02
Product
Rear-quarter view of a pair of chocolate brown suede derby shoes showing the heels, uppers, stitching and black lug soles.
- Overall viewTwo derby shoes shown from a rear-quarter angle with the right shoe foregrounded and the left shoe partially visible in the background.
1 region
x 0.35 · y 0.35 · w 0.60 · h 0.60 (medium) - Upper materialChocolate brown suede upper with a soft, slightly napped texture visible across the heel counters and quarters.
2 regions
x 0.45 · y 0.32 · w 0.45 · h 0.50 (high); x 0.02 · y 0.48 · w 0.40 · h 0.35 (high) - Stitching detailDouble vertical decorative stitch lines on the heel counter of both shoes running from collar toward the sole.
2 regions
x 0.58 · y 0.36 · w 0.18 · h 0.30 (high); x 0.08 · y 0.55 · w 0.18 · h 0.25 (high) - Collar and openingLow-cut collar with visible rolled suede edge around the shoe opening and a dark interior lining seen inside the openings.
2 regions
x 0.60 · y 0.22 · w 0.25 · h 0.18 (high); x 0.00 · y 0.40 · w 0.28 · h 0.22 (medium) - Lace area visibleTop of the facing and tied laces are slightly visible at the rear of the shoe openings above the collars.
2 regions
x 0.66 · y 0.20 · w 0.12 · h 0.12 (medium); x 0.11 · y 0.45 · w 0.12 · h 0.12 (medium) - Sole constructionThick black rubber lug sole with a low stacked heel and shallow notches in the outsole visible along the edge.
2 regions
x 0.55 · y 0.72 · w 0.36 · h 0.18 (high); x 0.00 · y 0.75 · w 0.48 · h 0.14 (high) - Welt or top edge between upper and soleThin darker seam at the junction of the suede upper and the black sole forming a narrow welt line around the heel.
1 region
x 0.56 · y 0.68 · w 0.35 · h 0.08 (high)
Other
Studio shot with a plain light gray background, soft shadow under shoes, and close-crop focusing on heels.
- BackgroundSmooth, even light gray seamless background occupying the full frame.
- Shadows and lightingSoft directional studio lighting from above-left producing subtle shadows under and to the lower-right of the shoes.
- Crop and compositionImage cropped to show rear halves of both shoes with front toe boxes out of frame; right shoe closest to camera.
Colors
chocolate brown suede· upper#694633matte black· sole#2D2C2B- Overall viewTwo derby shoes shown from a rear-quarter angle with the right shoe foregrounded and the left shoe partially visible in the background.
- 03
Product
Top-down view of a pair of brown suede derby shoes showing the full uppers, lacing, interior insoles with gold stamped text, and black sole edge.
- Shape and viewPair of shoes shown from a direct top-down view with toes at the top of the image and heels at the bottom; both whole uppers are visible.
- Upper materialSoft suede upper in a medium brown tone with visible nap texture across vamp, quarters, and around the collar.
2 regions
x 0.06 · y 0.04 · w 0.42 · h 0.92 (high); x 0.52 · y 0.04 · w 0.42 · h 0.92 (high) - LacingShort black round laces threaded through two eyelet tabs per shoe, tied with a simple partial knot and lay flat on the vamp.
2 regions
x 0.28 · y 0.34 · w 0.18 · h 0.12 (high); x 0.54 · y 0.34 · w 0.18 · h 0.12 (high) - Stitching detailVisible contrast stitching along the apron seam around the toe area and along the eyelet tabs; stitching appears in a slightly lighter brown or off-white tone on the left shoe's apron.
2 regions
x 0.08 · y 0.12 · w 0.36 · h 0.34 (medium); x 0.56 · y 0.12 · w 0.32 · h 0.34 (medium) - Sole edgeBlack textured sole edge visible around the perimeter of both shoes, forming a thin contrast rim between upper and background.
1 region
x 0.04 · y 0.02 · w 0.92 · h 0.96 (medium) - Insole color and finishDark insole visible inside each shoe providing a flat backdrop for gold stamped text.
2 regions
x 0.12 · y 0.62 · w 0.28 · h 0.18 (high); x 0.60 · y 0.62 · w 0.28 · h 0.18 (high) - Interior stampingGold stamped brand text is printed on each insole near the heel area.
2 regions
x 0.12 · y 0.68 · w 0.28 · h 0.14 (high); x 0.60 · y 0.68 · w 0.28 · h 0.14 (high) - Left insole text“KLEMAN”
1 region
x 0.14 · y 0.70 · w 0.24 · h 0.10 (high) - Right insole text“KLEMAN”
1 region
x 0.62 · y 0.70 · w 0.24 · h 0.10 (high) - Small curved text above brand“MADE IN FRANCE”Partial
2 regions
x 0.62 · y 0.66 · w 0.20 · h 0.06 (medium); x 0.14 · y 0.66 · w 0.20 · h 0.06 (medium)
Other
Studio-style top-down product photograph on a light gray background with even soft lighting and minimal shadows; image is centered and fully cropped to include both shoes.
- Shot compositionTop-down centered composition showing both shoes side by side with small gap between them and even margin to image edges.
- BackgroundUniform light gray background with a subtle soft shadow under the shoes.
- LightingSoft, diffused studio lighting producing even illumination and gentle shadows around the soles.
Colors
chocolate brown· suede upper#6A4633black· laces and sole edge#0E0D0Bmetallic gold· insole text
Documents & Data
Reddit Insights
4 threads · r/ThrowingFits, r/malefashionadviceReddit users find Kleman Padror shoes to be a comfortable, affordable alternative to Paraboots, though they note they can be clunky, have lower quality leather, and require careful sizing.
Users generally appreciate the comfort and value, but point out shortcomings in leather quality, chunkiness, and sizing inconsistencies.
Themes
Use Cases
- Everyday wear with jeans and suits
Watch Out For
Compared To
vs Paraboot Michael
Kleman Padrors are a cheaper alternative but with noticeably inferior leather quality and cemented construction.
Source Threads
Kleman break-in and sizing advice
I don’t know about the first shoe but I have a pair of Klemens. They broke in really quickly and feel great. The sizing is a little weird though, I would check your local Nordstrom if they have any in stock and try them on before you buy.
u/Childishvictrinor/ThrowingFitsView thread →
Kleman vs Paraboot leather quality
I have Paraboot Michaels and Kleman Frodans (their version of Chambords) in black leather. Aside from construction, another big difference is the quality of the leather. The Paraboots are soft, oily, and have tight creases. The Klemans were stiff, get huge unsightly creases, and have been much slower to break in. It’s a really noticeable difference in quality.
u/socal_beanr/malefashionadviceView thread →
Kleman Padror sizing and initial quality
I bought a pair earlier this year. The shoes themselves are great, I got the black pebble grain. As some people have said, they do look chunkier in person but if you wear any clothing that’s remotely boxy it looks way better than slimmer alternatives. I have wide flat feet, and the one complaint I do have is the website told me to size up if I was in between sizes (normally a US 9.5), I had to return my first pair and size down to a 9 which meant I had to pay import fees twice, ended up being like $100 total for that. No break-in period, but yeah don’t expect them to be welted or anything.
u/astwr/ThrowingFitsView thread →
Kleman Padror versatility and sizing
I did end up getting the Padrors and I’m into them. I’ve worn them with a suit and with everyday jeans. They go with everything. A wee bit bigger than expected. I’m usually a 10.5 in US so I got the 44s, but they’re just a little bit big - with thicker socks, though, they’re pretty spot on. Overall, big recommend.
u/rcjenningsr/malefashionadviceView thread →